Subject	The rotating tire creates its own drag
Posted by	TriniTT on November 29, 2007 at 2:06 PM
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In Reply To	I would think open wheel F1 cars would have more posted by AZHeat on November 29, 2007 at 01:42 PM
Message	To my understanding, it pushes and pulls the air (top to bottom) away from the tire as it spins, and the down force is actually high enough to help glue the tire to the ground to a very small extent. Cheers, JBrobst
Follow Ups	Those with physics/racing background how much - AZHeat 13:01:36 11/29/07 I read in some old motor trend... - CameronSF 13:04:10 11/29/07 * mid 90's corvette that is... (n/m) - CameronSF 14:06:01 11/29/07 You also have to consider frontal area, then assume - Scotts94z32 13:30:33 11/29/07 I would think open wheel F1 cars would have more - AZHeat 13:42:34 11/29/07 Don't you think that if that was true, - ZJeweler 13:45:52 11/29/07 I heard that NASCAR cars - AZHeat 13:55:43 11/29/07 F1 cars are not capable of 200mph - ZCulture 14:08:54 11/29/07 sure they are (n/m) - Guapo 14:16:31 11/29/07 I stand corrected. - ZCulture 14:22:13 11/29/07 Yes, and their top speed is goverened by the particular - Guapo 14:31:54 11/29/07 Makes sense and I guess that's where the confusion came from (n/m) - ZCulture 14:36:32 11/29/07 BTW, last year Honda F1 went out to Bonnevile with a - Guapo 14:42:05 11/29/07 had they used Villeneuve to drive - ZEngineer 15:11:33 11/29/07 say what you will, but he's still better than any of us. (n/m) - scoTTinald (BC) 15:27:56 11/29/07 agreed but we are not paid to drive... (n/m) - Max865(ATL) 21:26:47 11/29/07 What about his singing? - ZJeweler 15:28:36 11/29/07 The rotating tire creates its own drag - TriniTT 14:06:07 11/29/07 The intense downforce those cars create - BlackholeZ 14:08:05 11/29/07 plus the front wing deflects air over the tire don't forget (n/m) - LJZTT 17:34:00 11/29/07 I found this little gem of an equation as well: - Scotts94z32 13:51:54 11/29/07 Then Octavian could go 240mph :) (n/m) - CaliguyPurdue (redesigning) 14:00:39 11/29/07 So just to bounce an idea - Broke_as_**** 15:31:16 11/29/07 High End Torque is the important thing - Keaner 13:31:22 11/29/07 Isn't high end torque essentially horsepower? (n/m) - TriniTT 14:06:42 11/29/07 Given that the hp formula is tq x rpm / 5250, yes - pacmanpth 14:21:28 11/29/07 5252, if you work it out =) (n/m) - PennStateZ 15:00:13 11/29/07 Not really, most cars don't have highest Horsepower - Keaner 16:05:44 11/29/07 You are aware of the relationship between hp and tq, right? - PennStateZ 23:23:52 11/29/07 Power is torque by distance over time. Or Torque dotted with - turtleboy 02:06:39 11/30/07 the relationship between power and drag is not linear. - robo (sebring1970) 13:42:46 11/29/07 Ding (n/m) - Scotts94z32 13:52:38 11/29/07 as per the formula you posted above. I am driving myself - robo (sebring1970) 14:03:30 11/29/07 Lol...yeah, don't use acid on SS - He wouldn't like it :-) (n/m) - Hawkin"Z" 14:27:09 11/29/07 I was thinking the same thing when I read that ;~) (n/m) - Barry'z (NJ) 14:40:03 11/29/07 True but the relationship is quadratic, I believe. (n/m) - ZCulture 14:23:58 11/29/07 cubed, not quadratic. my brain is tired. (n/m) - robo (sebring1970) 14:28:32 11/29/07 Sorry misunderstood. - ZCulture 14:34:01 11/29/07 Top Gear road tests the Veyron & discusses this... - BruPo 14:25:10 11/29/07 You beat me to it! - Hawkin"Z" 14:29:58 11/29/07 and my rough calculation indicates they would need - Scotts94z32 15:24:41 11/29/07 ^Nerd.^ (n/m) - ZJeweler 15:30:00 11/29/07 766 more or total? - zboost(NoVA) 15:43:28 11/29/07 Only the power to the wheels is available to overcome - CaliguyPurdue (redesigning) 16:34:22 11/29/07 that video was amazing.. I always love his show! (n/m) - Carlos Ramirez 14:57:18 11/29/07
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